Some of the Telengana people have done excellent work in putting forward the strong reasons why and how Telengana people, their culture have been marginalised since 1956. Some of the internet blogs are really worth a look for example: http://www.lazydesis.com/political-news/144088-108-facts-about-telangana-need-justification.html. This listing is available at many places on internet and it is not possible to get the name of original author who prepared the listing. These 108 reasons explain why and how Telengana people have been discriminated since 1956 on all fronts including social, political, economic and administrative fronts by dominating Andhra people, leaders and their culture.
Though I do not want to agree for all of the reasons (due to some of the numbers- and the lack of independent authentication), I tend to believe that the Telengana guys are doing excellent job by bringing the facts forward. And reasoning well, why a seperate state is needed as soon as possible.
But Telengana community failed to address how the Andhra and Rayalaseema people have helped to build the state, culture and restore the pride.
1. Assuming that 90% of these reasons are contextually correct, the fact still remains that Telengana politicians have failed for their citizens since 1956. All these erstwhile landlords turned politicians have only become richer since the formation of the state by making their own people poor. How far it is fair to blame Andhra leaders and Andhra people?
2. If Anjaiah, then the Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh was publicly humiliated by Rajiv Gandhi, is it not NT Ramarao stood up and shown the pride of Telugu people across the word?
3. Now a days, there is a criticism that the Telengana Literature and Telengana intellectuals are not getting right place for their contributions. Does any one remember pre-1983, till NT Rama rao came to power, the plight of Telugu language in Hyderabad? If you speak in Telugu in public you were looked down? And suddenly after 50 years our friends are talking about recognition!
4. Did any one have guts to speak about Telugu during the Nizam rule of Hyderabad state? Did you not learn the Urdu and lived with that for 175 years!
5. If NT Rama Rao, YS Rajasekhara Reddy or N Chandrababu Naidu were selfish towards their regions - then why all these three slogged to bring international fame to Hyderabad at the cost of Andhra or Rayalaseema Regions?
6. Y S Rajaskhar Reddy while he was CM, when took steps for the Kadapa district development - all these Andhra dominated news papers like Andhra Joythy and Eenadu cried so much for his favouritism.
8. Did anyone say negetive when Vengal Rao developed Khammam district?
9. Is is not their own Telengana People who have driven PV Narasimha Rao to Ramtek from Hanmakonda?
10. What happened to Telengana Pride when PV was humiliated even in his death?
11. Is it not, NT Ramarao and Rayalaseema people who welcomed and given PV Narsimha Rao a great victory from Nandyal?
12. Why did YS Rajasekhar Reddy or Daggubati Purandeswari allocated IIT to Medak instead of Kadapa or Visakhapatnam?
13. It is not with Telengana money that Godavari or Krishna barrages at Rajahmundry or Vijayawada have been built?
14. What the MP's and MLA's for the Nalgonda or Mahboobnagar districts have been doing since 1956?
15. Instead of foul mouthing Y S Rajasekhar Reddy all time, did Nagam Janardhan Reddy anytime bothered looking at problems of Mahaboobnagar. Nagam is more worried about Gali Brothers in Ananthapur or Idupulapaya in Kadapa?
16. What did Jaipal Reddy do to Nalgonda district depsite being in the highly powerful position in Government of India for many years? Jaipal only knows how to switch the political parties and stick to power!
17. Why did Jeevan Reddy contest against K Chandra Sekhar Rao and now going with KCR and using his foul mouth? When did he realise the injustices to Telengana? After YSR death or after smelling the opportunity for power?
18. Yes, Potti Sriramulu is not connected with Telengana. But, I born and studied in all my school that Andhra Pradesh is single state and Hyderabad is the capital of the Telugus. Do you want me to study the previous history and say that Hyderabad state belongs to Muslims?
19. When did K Chandrasekhar Rao realise that injustices have been done to Telengana? After enjoying all the power and emassing the wealth?
20. Is it not NT Rama Rao gave K Chandrasekhar Rao and all those BC leaders from Telengana a political life. Where you would have been otherwise? Still getting crushed under the Telengana doralu (landlords)
21. Where is Konda Surekha without Y S Rajasekhar Reddy? She was politically nothing until a decade ago
22. What did Ponnala Laxmaiah do to Telengana Irrigation issues? Did he ever speak in Assembly or Cabinet?
23. OK, may most of the lands around Hyderabad are owned by Andhra people? Is it not a fact that all those local people who could not do anything with those lands became super rich overnight? Are they not driving Honda's and Benz cars?
24. Is it not Andhra and Rayalaseema people whole heartedly supported Telengana movement and provided all the help? Andhra People may be clever according to Telengana people but they did not have vision to see that Hyderabad and IT boom 50 years down the line!
25. If Viswanatha Satyanaryana got Jnanpeeth award, even eminent and well respected Dr C Narayana Reddy was given the same award. Could any one say if some is better or some is less?
26. If Tikkana came from Nellore, Nannayya came from Rajahmundry, Pothana came from Warangal. Can any one say if one is better than other? If any one dare to, it is only to show their ignorance?
27. Ramadasu came from Bhadrachalam (Khammam district) and Annamayya came from Kadapa. Is it not all Telugu people listen to melodies of these two every day? Did any Telengana people did not want to listen or see the Annamayya movie?
28. Before criticizing Kasu Brahmananda Reddy how he handled 1969 issues, it is good to remember that Nizam and Razakars have massacared scores of innocent people in the erstwhile Nizam state. How could K Chandrasekhar Rao praise Nizam and his establishment?
29. Well, from 1948 to 1956 - the Hyderabad state history is not mentioned mostly in schools. But, who is at fault? How many Education ministers came from Telengana? Is there any evidence to prove that Andhra or Rayalaseema people or leaders had a conspiracy?
30. Is it fair to have the NIT at Warangal and IIT at Medak, when Andhra and Rayalaseema do not have a single National Institute? Did any one from Andhra or Rayalaseema made it an issue? Then why are you bothered about two JNTU's in Rayalaseema?
31. Irrigation and in justice? Last two decades, both major and minor irrigation ministries are handled by Telengana leaders. It is Nagam Janardhan Reddy and Kadiyam Srihari in TDP Government and Ponnala Laxmaiah and Sunitha Lakshma Reddy. All are from Telengana! And did not do anything to Telengana for the last two decades. Did they ever differ with Chandrababu Naidu or YS Rajasekhar Reddy on Telengana development? No.
32. What is the track record of K Chandrasekhar Rao? Did he do any development to any of the constituency that he flip flopped all across Telengana? It does not need rocket science knowledge to know what he would do in future!
33. Is it not Manmohan Singh fed up with KCR's inefficiency when he was federal minister? Did he do anything to Telengana while he was Union Labour minister to Telengana or Telengana people? No.
34. How KCR emassed so much of wealth from an Immigration broker to become on of the wealthy persons in the state? (Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalvakuntla_Chandrashekar_Rao). How many people this Dubai Chandrasekhar cheated to accumulate this wealth?
35. If Ambedkar wanted Hyderabad to be second capital of India - all Telugu people will be happy and feel proud. But, who stopped it? Not Andhra or Rayalaseema people.
36. Is Jaipal Reddy sleeping all these decades having born in Mahaboobnagar district and representing Kalwakurthi as MLA for four terms? or enjoying the plight of poor people? What way Andhra or Rayalaseema people are resposible for the flight of poor people? Who stopped building irrigation systems to utilize the Krishna waters in the district? How many MLA's and MP's did these people sent to Hyderabad and New Delhi?
37. Andhra or Rayalaseema people have nothing to with the closure of Ramagundam Fertilizer factory. It was due to plant operational inefficiencies. Then that big man from Telengana "Kaka" Venkataswamy was doing? If he spent more time on these issues than on Presidential dreams - something could have been done
38. What is KK (K Keshava Rao's) track record? He never won a single direct election nor served the people of Telengana. Now this "fickle" minded "leader" wanted to do something for Telengana. Go to his official website (http://164.100.24.167:8080/members/website/Mainweb.asp?mpcode=1998). No great track record even in Delhi?
39. Lesser the said about V Hanumantha Rao is good for Telengana people. He is the best mate of KK during all his political career. Cannot even win at Amberpet (his home) where most of the people are not from Andhra or Rayalaseema. His home at Delhi is 11, Janpath and hence he always speaks for Madam but not for people.
40. Andhra and Rayalaseema people are not responsible for the Naxalite problems in Telengana. What Chevella Chellamma, Sabitha Indra Reddy is doing being Home Minister? What did Jana Reddy do for the Telengana being the Home Minister earlier?
41. Did Telengana merged with Andhra forcefully? Is it not a merger after passing resolution in the Hyderabad state assembly?
42. Let's agree that Nizam was richest man in the world but his citizens were very poor.
43. Many Goverment Milk plants in Andhra also have been closed thanks to Chandrababu Naidu. Hence it was not just Telengana faced the problems.
44. Why Andhra region was never industrialised like Telengana by Andhra and Rayalaseema leaders?
45. Unfortunately AP government GO's do not apply for IAS or IPS and other central services.
46. Even in Bangalore, Kannadigas are minority. It is Tamils and Telugu's who dominate the work force all across. How did this happen? Tamil's and Telugu's or Malayalees were willing to move for greener pastures and earlier -Kannadigas did not want to move even from Mysore to Bangalore? Hence they lost all those jobs to outsiders.
47. Are you willing to agree if Muslims being the "natives" of Hyderabad for centuries, and if they ask for a seperate state for Muslims with Hyderabad, Rangareddi, Nizamabad and Karimnagar? They will have the same reasons as you are saying now - like robbers and thugs?
48. Is it not true that Telengana, Andhra and Rayalaseema people killed the "lazy Nawabi" culture of Hyderabad?
49. Will you support North Karnataka and Marthwada a seperate states as they were with you until 1956 as part of Hyderabad state?
50. On your own admission, If more than 90% of the colonies are occupied by Seemandhra people, it is not fair to say that Telengana people are a minority in the Hyderabad metro City area?
51. Do you know how many kaka's, DK's and KK's from Telengana have become filthy rich like Seemandhra leaders and at the expense of common man? How did Dubai Chandrasekhar earn so much of wealth?
52. Agreed, Lagadapati Rajagopal had some controversies with his business and accumulated wealth. How much did Madu Yaskhi Goud earn? What did he do to Nizamabad since he became MP except fighting with YSR and Lagadapati.
53. Rosaiah cannot speak for United Andhra Pradesh but the D Srinivas, can speak for Telengana. Whom do you want to fool? What stops a Chief Minister representing a state to talk for the state?
54. As per the The Hindu article (http://www.hindu.com/mag/2005/12/18/stories/2005121800150200.htm) The paddy boom was such that as many as 50 rice mills came up at Miryalaguda, the largest number at any single place in Asia.
55. Now some Telengana people are saying that Telengana is nothing to do with Potti Sriramulu. And he fought for the liberation of Andhra and Rayalaseema from Tamils / Madras state. OK, there is no evidence that Mahatma Gandhi ever fought for the Hyderabad state liberation from Nizam. Actually, Gandhi did fight against British only. So, how Gandhi can be connected to Telengana and revered? Do not twist the facts. Potti Sriramulu was soldier who died for the Telugu people indentity.
56. I can tell many Telengana names who live in the Jubilee Hills and Banjara Hills. Do not try to protray that all Telengana people are poor. Nama Venkateswara Rao for example is the richest MP in the state. Where is Khammam? Not in Telnagana?
57. Can you tell for sure that none of the Telangana businessmen or Politicians took away the WAKF lands in Hyderabad or Telengana? Look this link: http://www.indianmuslims.info/node/80791 and tells what YS Rajasekhar Reddy did to return the lands. And see this http://www.twocircles.net/2009jun24/compensation_demanded_prime_waqf_land_visakhapatnam.html, such lands have gone similarly in Visakhapatnam as well. Finally, according to this link http://www.anindianmuslim.com/2009/08/should-waqf-boards-be-disbanded-in.html, Andhra Pradesh is the best in India to protect the Wakf lands. And the main problem is, those Walf caretakers are the real culprits. Power does not know the religion? What do you say about the 100's of thousands of Temple lands in entire Andhra Pradesh that have gone into the hands of enchroachers. So, do not link Religion with this issue.
58. You say 150 odd forts in Telangana have been delapidated and not maintained. OK, could tell us which Andhra fort was taken care well by Andhra Pradesh Government? Bobbili fort has gone and so many. But, you see infront of you how Golconda is protected and developed. Suddenly you remember the culture and say Andhra and Rayalaseema people have even ruined little cared and unknown forts that yourselves do not know. Could you tell me the list of those 150? I would like to visit them in my next visit to India
59. Hyderabad Central Univeristy - does it have any reservations for the Andhra People? This Central university is a national university, serving certain objectives. Go to this link http://www.uohyd.ernet.in/ and see the ticker on the university objectives. It does not talk about Telangana / Andhra Pradesh. Compete man! Go to BITS, Pilani or IIT, Chennai - there also you will see mostly Andhra students and facutly. Ask all those bright Telangana students who are robbing the Rajasthani or Tamil opportunities to come back to Karimnagar or Adilabad.
60. Telugu film industry. Yes, it is dominated by Andhra (or for that matter few communities). But if some one got a talent, one can stop them. Prakash Raj the top star in Tollywood is not even from Andhra Pradesh. From where Shayaji Shinde came from? None of the present day Tollywood heroines are from Andhra Pradesh. This is millions of dollars worth business and do not expect reservations. Dubai Chandrasekar - is giving free entertainment on par with Brahmanandam. Enjoy!
61. Telagana accent and comedy in Telugu movies. Even the so called educated and cultured Brahmins, in Tollywood movies are projected as comic characters. Do you want Brahmins to ask for a seperate district if not a state? If it is cultural norm - change it. Do you know Sardarji jokes? They brilliant people on the earth. Do not ask for a seperate state just because of a 5 minute comic scenes in Tollywood movies. I am happy to see Uttej in the movies and I do not think he is demeaning anything.
62. Do you know how many decades it to start Polavaram Project? Do not come to conclusion that it is a cake walk to start a project in Andhra. How many lives and man years have been lost for the Visakhapatnam steel plant- do you know? Did any one die for an industry in Telengana since 1956? Even without asking you get IIT or IIIT or anything!
63. Flourosis in Nalgonda. I agree that Nalgonda is having a problem. But, do not say it is just Nalgonda having problem in entire Andhra Pradesh. According to http://www.fluorosisinandhra.org/fluorosisinap_page.htm, there are as many districts in AP suffer from this problem. Prakasam district is having same level of problems as Nalgonda. This problem is nothing to do with Andhra or Rayalaseema people. This is an adminstrative problem. All the Collectors of these districts, if they were forced to drink the same water as villagers, then this problem would have solved in 1956 itself.
64. Bonalu, Batukamma and Andhra people reluctance to understand. How many of you Telengana guys in US, Europe or Australia being citizens of those countries adapted the local culture and undestood and integrated with the local communities. I am telling you - Zero. Still all these guys want their own culture, and create ghettos to live in their world. First ask all those Telengana people to forget their culture and adapt to the foreigh culture? But you need dollars and Euro, and hang on there by hook or crook!
65. What effort did Telangana people made to understand Andhra or Rayalaseema culture? Do you know the culture of Srikakulam? Why should I know, when it is not in my way of life?
66. Hyderabad is not a Kashimir for Andhra people as it is for Pakistan. Do not get too emotional. My son is born there, so my nephew and my niece. I studied here and worked in Hyderabad. If my Father came to Telengana, so is Dubai Chandrasekhar's grand father or KK's great grand father. All Andhra and Rayalaseema people have right to live in Hyderabad or Nizamabad.
67. Do not show over enthusiam to prove something incorrect See this http://www.jstor.org/pss/4362030. As a matter of fact Mulki's came to protect primarily the Telengana people from the Northern Indians or Hindustanis. Do you know the Karnakaka and Maratha people of Hyderbad state ever had the benefit of Mulki once they were merged into respective states? See this link http://telanganautsav.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/mulki-rules-movement-in-hyderabad-karnataka/ and according to them, Telengana people are fortunate. How perceptions change amonst the cousins!
68. How hungry are you guys? Not satisfied with so many big universities- you also want, Health University at Vijayawada or Mahila University at Tirupathi also to be moved to Hyderabad? Then you blame, Andhra and Rayalaseema people are taking away your jobs?
69. Andhra Controlled Media? Who made Dubai Chandrasekhar a hero? Is not this Andhra Controlled media? He was not willing to contest an election & lost his face in public but, overnight he was made a hero by Andhra controlled media. Yes, this media is the real culprit for all the problems we have today.
70. Telagana Sayudha Poratam inspired the West Bengal, Kerala and Tripura and paved way for formation of Communist governments in those States. Excellent? So you want to pass the baton to Annalu (Naxalites who are sitting in the forests and universities) and seek their inspiration to join the insurgency movement to destabilise India further. You know where WB, Kerala and Tripura are today and their standing vis-a-vis Gujarat, Tamil Nadu or Karnataka! Wake up - China is NOT a communist country anymore. Seek positive inspiration.
71. Did you ever read Rachakonda Vishwanatha Sastri novels? He is considered, perhaps one of the greatest authors from (North Coastal) Andhra Pradesh. I tried to read, but I could not understand. The reason being, he writes in colloquial Telugu of Srikakulam and Vizianagaram districts. Hard to read and hard to understand flow. I tried and found the same complexity with Kaloji Narayana Rao. And never attempted to read Viswanatha Satyanarayana. All these people are great. On writes in classical Telugu and other in colloquial. This is called diversity. Do you know the German spoken in Bavaria is so different and heavy that even the native Germans cannot understand easily. Instead of demeaning yourselves, try to enrich and motivate other people to read. Shouting and howling won't do much. Did any one force you to read Sri Sri Mahaprastanam? Be proud of Telengana Telugu accent!
72. Life won't end by singing in Telangana song or garlanding Telanga Talli. Would any one dare to open a Telanga Telugu medium school and send their children to those schools? I challenge that not even Dubai Chandrasekhar will send his grand child!
73. Why K Chandrasekhar Rao lives in Banjara Hills amongst the Andhra and Rayalaseema rich people? Please ask him to lead by example and go and live in Dhool pet (http://164.100.47.132/LssNew/Members/Biography.aspx?mpsno=4083) and show solidarity. Incidentally, his home at New Delhi is in Tughlaq Road. What a coincidence!
74. Suddenly few Telengana "fantics" have become agressive and exprssing feelings that Nizam and his rule was better than Andhra people and their company. Great guys! I wonder, why you did not support the Nizam proposal to join Pakistan than India or remain independent nation. You may forgive your enemies but do not forget their names.
75. Hyderabad and natural growth? Well, everybody knows the situation of Hyderabad and the reputation till 1983. Do you think that Microsoft or Infosys or HSBC have come to Hyderabad seeing the lobbying of Dubai Chandrasekhar? It is hard slog of two Chief Ministers for more than 2 decades. Tell me how many Telangana leaders have participated in buidling "Brand Andhra Pradesh" or "Brand Andhra"? None
76. If you think Andhra people are thugs or robberers - get ready, the Dubai Chandrasekhar from Bobbili or KK from Machilipatman will strip you guys naked in public even without your knowledge
77. Do you know how many districts in Andhra and Rayalaseema did not have a major industry? And yet, you call West Godavari a developed district than Karimnagar District.
78. Do you have Mulkis implemented in the Karnatak and Marthwada parts of the erstwhile Hyderabad state when they were demerged in 1956? Why it is so unique for Andhra Pradesh only. If you tell a lie repeatedly do not think it would be truth. Stop calling Andhra people cunning, clever or arrogant. These are perceptions.
79. Telengana peasant rule! What way Andhra people are connected with the cruelity of the Telangana landlords to their own people. See this http://cssaame.dukejournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/4/1/1 and is it not true that all these people have been marginalized after 1956? Why did PV Narasimha Rao lost him Chief Ministership. Was it not, he wanted to implement land ceiling act and the Telangana landlords siezed him?
80. Read this http://jabilli.wordpress.com/ for some of the answers to 108. Do not make shocking statements like not a single acre of land was not submerged in Guntur while thousands were lost in Nalgonda district (Actually I did realise just now that some had made responses even bigger than 108, to bring forward the truth)
More will be added in coming days
5 comments:
don't try to cover urselfs, we don't need explanations, u please stand in place of telangana leaders place and think, u will know, i think you a mature person and not a small kid
Its WonderFul Post, Excellent work, keep it up
Whatever written as response to 108 facts is just bullshit. This guy is just trying to divert the issue to the different lanes. The response to 108 facts, it shelf shows that how much selfish these andhra guys are. The writer is indirectly accepting that
his region leaders indeed deceived the people of Telangana. Even if Telangana leaders try to do something your leaders never let them do. You just go and read want happened when PV Narasimma rao was CM of AP,he tried to do something to Telangana, but what happened just read the history. Try to know why AP had president rule for one year. Total period of Telangana all 3 CMs of Telangan was only 6 years. On CM from Telangana was there in power for not more than 1 year , reason your Andhra leader didn't let them continue example 1973 President rule and 1990 communal riots in hyderabd old city.
Do not try to boast about your Andhra pride here.. We don't what you bloody cheaters. Don't even talk about our Telangana leaders,, as your leaders did some good Telangana people. It is idiotic to say that one MLA can get irrigation project to Mahboobnagar.If you think AP government is impartial to all the people then why some MLA has beg for the rights. The writer is an idiot without knowledge. This guy wrote all these things with lack of information. This guy wrote all the points just to write some irrelevant kiddish stuff. There is no stuff in the matter.
If 108 facts are bullshit then, 108 responses may also be called bullshit. I respect your views. But, my sincere advise is - do not blindly believe in "your Telangana" leaders. The main and perhaps the single reason why we do not see Telangana is the leaders lack any credibility.
Now coming to PV Narasimha Rao. He really wanted to something called land reforms. Hence all those landlords (in entire Andhra Pradesh) sent him to home. That includes so called, "your Telangana" leaders. Let's not too far back to 1972, even in 2005/6 when Telugu Desam Party was pleading Congress government to name Hyderabad airport after PV, none of "your Telangana leaders" supported TDP.
I think, when Prataparudra was surrended to Tuglak in the interest of his people and was taken to Delhi - was it not your "telengana people" watched that brave hero paraded infront of Orugallu citizens!
You may call me "idiot" or "arrogant" - I take it as your telangana culture!
I challenge, please prove me where I told lies? I will delete all those entries - with an apology for each deletion.
Just remember - I am from Khammam (very interior part of the district) and I know the Telangana, the people and their leaders first hand.
same solution were give by british when , they ruled india
Now andhra people also tell same on telangana.(
If u consider to be united y what resone is making free india , let it be in east india rule it self it might be developed more)
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